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batskeetsI am retarded and I left my cell phone in the car earlier. So, uh, yeah. Don't call me until after work. XD
A follow-up to yesterday's pro-choice blurb: J read it and we got into something of a discussion--he falls more on the pro-life side of the fence, you see--on the issue.
He brought up the issue of personal responsibility, and the fact that people use abortions too recklessly to get out of pregnancy, when they should be taking responsibility for their mistakes and/or lack of precautions. Which, yeah, I have to agree. That's not just true of abortions, either; a lot of people in today's society are all too eager to jump up and say, "it's not my fault!" and blame their own stupid, reckless, and/or assholish behavior on someone or something else entirely. Seriously, it's not that hard to just *avoid doing something stupid*. Or at the very least, if you're going to do something idiotic or insensitive, at least have the balls to OWN it.
I, in turn, brought up the issue that protection and precautions can only go so far. Which, he had to agree with. No birth control method is 100% effective, and there are instances when a woman may be forced into pregnancy against her will. With the legal system being as slow and bogged down in red tape as it is, we can't hope to implement procedures that would allow someone to prove a more legitimate reason why they'd need an abortion--the baby would already be born before you even saw a judge. We can easily say that a person should live with the consequences of their own actions, but should we *have* to live with the results of actions inflicted upon us by others?
We essentially concluded that there are instances when abortion is legitimate and appropriate, but that people shouldn't abuse the right to an abortion just because they have said right. So, we're not *exactly* Pro-Choice or Pro-Life... we're Pro-Don't-Be-An-Idiot. ::laughs:: See? This is why I bill myself as a moderate. Waaaayyy too much grey area in the world.
I'm going to be so glad when Collegiates is over... this is basically my last day of relative sanity before it all begins. ::rotfl:: Tomorrow, I have to make a Costco run for judges' food after work, then get ready and go to the banquet, and then I'll probably be off to set up the competition floor. Then, I'm up bright and early on Saturday for registration and volunteer-wrangling. Waaaaaugh. The good news is, we now have a house for the after-party, so that's one less thing to worry about. I'm looking forward to unwinding... don't be surprised if you see me on Saturday night and I'm piss dr0nk. ;p
This week needs to end nownownow. People keep inviting me to various things, but I can't because I'm either training or planning or just trying to stay fed and rested and not-homicidal. I'm doing well so far, but it's a downer when I get offers for fun things that I can't accept.
That's all. Rrargh!
A follow-up to yesterday's pro-choice blurb: J read it and we got into something of a discussion--he falls more on the pro-life side of the fence, you see--on the issue.
He brought up the issue of personal responsibility, and the fact that people use abortions too recklessly to get out of pregnancy, when they should be taking responsibility for their mistakes and/or lack of precautions. Which, yeah, I have to agree. That's not just true of abortions, either; a lot of people in today's society are all too eager to jump up and say, "it's not my fault!" and blame their own stupid, reckless, and/or assholish behavior on someone or something else entirely. Seriously, it's not that hard to just *avoid doing something stupid*. Or at the very least, if you're going to do something idiotic or insensitive, at least have the balls to OWN it.
I, in turn, brought up the issue that protection and precautions can only go so far. Which, he had to agree with. No birth control method is 100% effective, and there are instances when a woman may be forced into pregnancy against her will. With the legal system being as slow and bogged down in red tape as it is, we can't hope to implement procedures that would allow someone to prove a more legitimate reason why they'd need an abortion--the baby would already be born before you even saw a judge. We can easily say that a person should live with the consequences of their own actions, but should we *have* to live with the results of actions inflicted upon us by others?
We essentially concluded that there are instances when abortion is legitimate and appropriate, but that people shouldn't abuse the right to an abortion just because they have said right. So, we're not *exactly* Pro-Choice or Pro-Life... we're Pro-Don't-Be-An-Idiot. ::laughs:: See? This is why I bill myself as a moderate. Waaaayyy too much grey area in the world.
I'm going to be so glad when Collegiates is over... this is basically my last day of relative sanity before it all begins. ::rotfl:: Tomorrow, I have to make a Costco run for judges' food after work, then get ready and go to the banquet, and then I'll probably be off to set up the competition floor. Then, I'm up bright and early on Saturday for registration and volunteer-wrangling. Waaaaaugh. The good news is, we now have a house for the after-party, so that's one less thing to worry about. I'm looking forward to unwinding... don't be surprised if you see me on Saturday night and I'm piss dr0nk. ;p
This week needs to end nownownow. People keep inviting me to various things, but I can't because I'm either training or planning or just trying to stay fed and rested and not-homicidal. I'm doing well so far, but it's a downer when I get offers for fun things that I can't accept.
That's all. Rrargh!
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Date: 2006-03-02 10:49 pm (UTC)Hah, that's an interesting point. Which makes me wonder...will the far-right will pay for the infastructure it'd take for all these women to appeal to a court system? The orphanages for unwanted children? The social programs (wellfare, foodstamps, etc.) for those mothers who are forced to carry their pregnancy to term and then decide not to put the child up for adoption? The extra schooling these children - wards of state or otherwise - will need?
I can only assume the answer. It's really sad that in life-of-others vs. money, money usually wins.