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I'm drooling over Powerbooks and iBooks at the online Apple Store. I used to have a 486 laptop, and that was neat. I kinda miss the whole portability factor... and the new iBooks look sw33t. I got to poke around a bit with one when my boss had it in here the other day, it was hella nice.

And now I just keep thinking that if I were to cancel my cell phone service when the contract runs out, and funnel that money into an iBook payment plan instead... oooo. Hot stuff bay-bee.

Me and my crazy ideas. Jeebus.

IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-25 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiteraevyn.livejournal.com
You should be beaten with a stick. :) You can get 10 times the PC power, storage space and RAM that the best iBook can provide (sorry, James, but it's true :) Get a PC laptop!!! Vaios are nice, albeit expensive.

We have a chick that comes into the lab a couple of times a week and bitches about how nice her iBook was at first, and then it started crashing and pooping out on her constantly. BEWARE THE iBook. At least get a Titanium if you MUST buy a Mac.

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeets.livejournal.com
Titanium costs too much for me at this juncture... and I'm also not seeing anything on the VAIO site that'll let me make monthly payments, which is the only reason I could conceivably get a laptop at all. And the Apple discounts for education (basically, anybody who's in a college or working for one) are also a nice bonus.

And I don't need a total powerhouse machine in this laptop... that's what I built Inaho for. :D I want a fun computer that I can carry around to class and take notes on and just do random crap with when I'm on the go. You know how I am about being away from my computer for too long. ^_-

And it's actually a goal of mine to eventually be well-acclimated to both PCs and Macs... makes me more marketable and shite. But my work computer is a piece of crap pre-G3 dinosaur, so hell if I'm going to learn anything from that. :pppp

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-25 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrwiz.livejournal.com
ya dude, most of the people who are platform snobs are also platform ignorant. get an iBook and learn the macOS. it obviously hasn't killed all the other mac users who're using it. Nor has learning windows or unix killed any die hard mac users.

and the price/performance ratio of an ibook is pretty sweet, especially when you consider all the extra goodies like firewire and usb and built in ethernet, and wireless ready and damn, that pure sexy appeal factor =)

GET THE IBOOK!

Date: 2001-07-25 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xplo.livejournal.com
YES! Succumb to the Light Side. You don't need a cell phone anyway.

Besides, the iBook is a pretty sweet package for the price.. even the PC media will tell you that. (And PC laptops can suck my left nut. Why? Because the only way to make them work is to put in a bunch of underpowered components to reduce heat and improve battery life. Apple's been making PC laptops look bad since the G3 came out.)

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-25 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistleknot.livejournal.com
The best Sony model is far and away more expensive than the best iBook, and the best Dell too.
$2299.99 (PIII 850 128 MB Sony) and $2129.99 (Dell c600 750 PIII 128 MB with Educational Package Discount for UO) vs $1705.00 (G3 500 128 MB with Apple Educational Package Discount for UO), Sony doesn't offer an educational discount. This leaves a savings of $594.99 from Sony and a savings of $424.99 over the Dell. But with the educational discount from Dell, you have to deal with motherboard and keyboard/trackpad failures as well.
Dell recalled ALL of their computers from the UO Law School because of motherboard failure, along with the whole batch from 9 other schools, the University of Illinois Law School being the only other one mentioned by name by the Dell support people.
The Dells have wireless networking included (built in around the edge of the display, non-removeable), and you can't disable that function, so it takes an extra two minutes to boot while it looks for a wireless network and tries to grab an IP address. You have the option to disable AirPort on a Macintosh. The Sony Vaio gets rather hot because of the PIII processor and the graphics card that they stuffed into it, and has a tendency to crash on the few law students who have them and leave them on while they are studying in the library.
Plus, they weigh like a ton, with the Dells being 6.7 lbs (1.8 lbs heavier than the iBook), and the Vaio weighing a whopping 7.3 lbs (2.4 lbs heavier than the iBook), while the iBook weighs only 4.9 lbs. Carrying that around with your books gets to be a real pain.
The display on the iBook is clearer, brighter and stronger than the Dells or the Vaio, which means that there is less flexibility and less likelyhood that it will get torqued and broken with the bumping that it will get being moved around, you don't bump the pointer in the keyboard like the Dell computers (Sony didn't include that, thankfully. A good move).
For price and performance, the prize has to go to the iBook, which performs just as well as a pentium notebook.

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-25 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeets.livejournal.com
LOL... Apple should hire you to promote for them ;p

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-26 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiteraevyn.livejournal.com
I am not platform ignorant at all... I not only grew up on Macs, I had one for two years ... and it was a slow, crashy piece of crap. I was also tired of the unavialbility of software and the incompatibility of hardware. I know the MacOS very, very well ... more than I want to. I switched to a Dell PC a year ago, and I have never been happier. I have had no problems with it at all, except for having to reinstall my OS once. Which is more than I can say for the Mac that I had.

The Sony Vaio is much more powerful than any Mac laptop you could possibly get. Chris from the second floor of Douglass had one, and it was a wonderful, happy little angel of a machine and no, it did not run hot at all ... and it was only 6 lbs.; I don't know which computer you were looking at, James, maybe it was the all-in-one, or something. And the weight of a computer is not really a selling point for me. You want to see something that runs hot? Go look at those damn Borg cube Mac things. I practically burned my hand when I touched it.

And I never claimed that PCs were less expensive than the iBook ... however, I'd challenge that a Sony Vaio all-in-one is a much better computer than an iBook could hope to be right now.

If (Sarah) you're getting one to become more platform-savvy, I applaud that wholeheartedly ... make yo'self more diverse!

Re: IBOOK???

Date: 2001-07-26 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrwiz.livejournal.com
Sorry you've had bad experience with macs, but when was the last time you tried one? They have become much more stable and compatible over the last few years.

I like my pc, i like my mac, and I like unix terminals. They're all good at different things.

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